Weaz dem cosmic rays??

Aside from the total solar irradiance changes, changes in cosmic rays might be the next skeptic alternative to increases in greenhouse gases and other anthropogenic activities as the cause of modern global warming. It is an idea being investiaged a lot, though some like Henrik Svensmark and Nir Shaviv are very confident that they have overturned the CO2 paradigm and found a link between cosmic rays and low level cloud cover.

A simple soda bottle experiment can demonstrate the idea…fill a 2-liter plastic bottle 1/3 full of some warm water and close the cap and swish it around such that the inside is saturated, and then squeeze the bottle in and out. Given a saturation state, you’d think you might get fog-like residue on the side. You probably won’t. Clouds need condensation nuclei to build off of, so by adding particles you enhance the water condensation process. If you light a match and let it burn for a few seconds, blow it out, and then drop it in the bottle quickly and close the cap, the smoke now can serve as a foundation for which a cloud can form. Now if you squeeze the bottle in and out, you should see some cloudiness around the sides of the bottle.

The idea behind cosmic rays is that they effect cloud condensation nuclei (CCN) and thus when you get more cosmic rays, you can get more low clouds. A decrease in CR intensity should cause a decrease in Low Cloud Cover (LCC). Changes in clouds effect the albedo of the planet.

In a new paper, by Sloan and Wolfendale, the authors investigated the link by looking for periods in time/places on the planet which had documented various cosmic ray arrivals, and seeing if that affected the cloudiness.  The authors looked at solar cycles 22 and 23 especially. The conclusion by the paper is that the there is a weak correlation over the first cycle, and the upper limit percentage (less than 1/4 due to CC variability) is incompatible with a large part of the change in the LCC during solar cycle 22 being produced by changes in ionization. No correlation is found in solar cycle 23. During Forbush decreases (small decreases in CC intensity), and the causal connection would imply a decrease in LCC over a Forbush decrease, and on timescales of days and shorter. From this paper, it is statistically improbable that there is a correlation during Forbush decreases between changes in LCC and ionization.

This is a subject that needs further investigation, but no corroboration of the hypothesis of a causal connection between the changes in ionization from cosmic rays and LCC could be made in this paper. Other papers such as Benestad 2005 and Lockwood and Frohlich 2007 find no explanatory trend in cosmic rays to be causing the observed temperature rise.

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4 responses to “Weaz dem cosmic rays??

  1. You have probably seen Shaviv’s response to the S&W paper, but for those who have not, here it is: http://www.sciencebits.com/SloanAndWolfendale

    What are your thoughts on this Chris?

    Response– I’d prefer to wait for a response in the refereed literature, so that SW also have a chance to respond, and if such a response comes out I will post on it. All of these people know much more about ionization and cosmic rays than I do. I’m still open to the idea that CRF effects LCC (it makes sense), but with no trends in cosmic rays for over 50 years, and with no study able to quantify the effects, and with a multitude of inconsistent “fingerprints” (e.g., stratospheric cooling, decrease in the diurnal temperature gradient) there is no explanatory or predictive power. The only thing I’ve seen is weak correlations whose methods have been called out as suspect in the academic literature.

    From a quick glance, I don’t see how these objections hurt the S&W paper. Shaviv believes LCC is influenced by the rate of ion production in the atmosphere, and S&W look for changes in LCC from changes in the CR intensity from solar activity as the geomagnetic latitude increases. The point on clods leading changes in cosmic rays is not the whole story; S&W could not find a strong relationship regardless of which comes first. Shaviv does not address this, he only says cloud cover is effected by other things. The third criticism makes sense, but I don’t know if it is right or not.– chris

  2. Chris said:
    “I’d prefer to wait for a response in the refereed literature, so that SW also have a chance to respond, and if such a response comes out I will post on it…”

    I have no clue whether or not a response is being prepared for submission (I would assume one is, based upon the blog post). It’ll be interesting to see what transpires.

    My understanding of GCRs in relation to LCC is somewhat low, but they are a fascinating aspect of climate. Great post.

  3. For a little balance, I found this response by Sloan on bigcitylib: http://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2008/04/on-solar-links-sloan-responds-to-shaviv.html#links

    An interesting discourse. I would hope something is in the works for the literature.

  4. Here are two new studies that are in favor of the GCR-climate link:

    Click to access 0803.2765.pdf

    Click to access 0803.2766.pdf

    Perhaps you could do a post on them as well?

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